Subject: Re: does clearcoating darken touchups ?

mike hooker wrote:
> will clearcoating make it
> appear darker than not clearcoating?

Yes.

I have found, group please dorrect me if I’m wrong, if you let the
touch up dry thoroughly, wipe it quickly with liquid (Naphtha) just to
wet it, that is what it and the PF will look like cleared. No, the
Naphtha does not “change” (discolor/later) the color other than making
it wet and it will dry in several seconds, don’t over do it so as not
to remove the touch up.

Example, if you have micro cracks and you’re not sure if the clear will
“fill them in” and make them disappear, wipe with Naphtha, if they
disappear when wet then they’ll do the same under the clear… If they
don’t you’ll have to adress them possible by wiping with a dry/damp
Qtip or towel with paint of correct color.

This is my experience and opinion, I am NO expert, masters of the hobby
please advise accordingly.

Best, Karl.

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Creature Touchup — How’d I do?

Open to comments, suggestions, etc…

http://www.michael-g.com/creature/

The aqua blue was tough as all hell to match…

Still debating on how to do the pink…

How’s it look? I was going off of pics on sites on the internet… If its
way off, can someone send me a good clean pic of the flipper area that I can
re-paint based off of?

Thanks,
MIKE

Picked up a dragons lair, and I’ve been slowly getting ready to re-store it as well.

Found a good resource: dragonslairproject.com

I’ve wanted a jukebox for a while now. Here’s some links to some that guys are building (as usual, some are pretty, most are ugly)

here
and
here

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Tech: TZ third magnet project update

Instructions for adding third magnet driver and wiring completed
http://iobium.com/adding_the_extra_driver_transist.htm

Drilling template part tested, partial instructions completed
http://iobium.com/drilling_template.htm

Switch matrix optos tested and working

I have parts and plastics to finish this one off. I am really pleased
with the drilling template.

The IR tester derivative is also working nicely.

From: “Mark Clayton”
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: TSSP & SP flipper button repair

After the cabinet is repaired, may I suggest that you then apply a set
of my clear vinyl flipper button cabinet protectors:
http://www.pinballpal.com/products/flipper/

They’re under $5 a set, and they’re made from removable vinyl rather than
permanent mylar so they’re less likely to cause more damage should they
need to be removed down the road.

If you can get a 1:1 scan of the flipper area, you could print it out on
sticky-back inkjet photo paper and then cover it with the clear protectors
to keep the repair from wearing off.

-Mark
–
http://pinballpal.com/

From:
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Who sells and ships wide body playfield glass??

I have use www.onedayglass.com twice, and been very satisfied with the
price and service. Their prices are reasonable, even with shipping.

Tim

Tip provided by Treasurecove.

The op who sold me the BSD had a thing. A thing with snipping any wire they could. I’ve counted at least 4 snipped wires on these games so far. Cayle George was willing to help me find a part. Here’s so info if anyone else would like it.

From what I can see, the cables you are referring to go up to the top of the playfield and power the small coil that opens and closes the left gate for the “mist” multiball. This gate is located under the large left playfield houses plastic.

These pictures I took for you should help make things clear:

(The first picture is large, may take a few seconds to load)

http://www.caylegeorge.com/pinball/bsd1.jpg
http://www.caylegeorge.com/pinball/bsd2.jpg
http://www.caylegeorge.com/pinball/bsd3.jpg
http://www.caylegeorge.com/pinball/bsd4.jpg
http://www.caylegeorge.com/pinball/bsd5.jpg

On the way to the top of the playfield, the cable goes thru the hole on the left side of the playfield next to the “castle popper” bracket as shown in the picture.

Hope this helps, if not, give me more details about your problem. :)

Have a great night,

From:
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Announce: Gottlieb System3 repair guide

Though i have to admit, this certainly isn’t
the most complete repair guide. But at this
time it’s as far as i can take it. There is a
very limited amount of information on
Gottlieb System 3 pinball games. And
you don’t see a lot of these games out there.
I have only repaired a limited number of them.
So my repair experiences are not as deep
as say the more common Williams and Bally
games. But here it is:

http://marvin3m.com/sys3

If anyone has any additional repair
information they can add, please email
me. I would love to hear about it and add it
to the guide. Hopefully this repair guide
will grow with time. I find after i do a
repair guide, the popularity of that system
of game rises a bit, which helps feed
the repair guide, making it better. I certainly
hope this is the case for Gottlieb system3
pinballs too.

I would like to add that Gottlieb System3
is an excellent pinball system. Certainly
on par (if not better) than Williams WPC.
Unfortunately the weakness is in the game
design and themes themselves. I mean
what were they thinking when they did
some of these strange titles (like Operation
Thunder and Shaq Attack).

cfh at provide dot net

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: FS - Custom Logo Pinball Mats

I have had my treasured games in my gamesroom for many years. The floor is
hard and cold, but of course I keep the heat down a bit so I can save up for
more pins! Funny thing is many of my buddies did the exact same thing. We
had been scrounging up old sample carpet mats for years and putting them in
front of the games to make it easier to stand there and beat that elusive
high score! Problem is they look horrible, odd ends of discontinued colors
scattered all about my gamesroom. Warm, but hardly a fitting accessory for
my new LOTR!

I looked long and hard to find mats that matched my pinball themes…. they
just didn’t exist till now.

A bunch of my local pinhead buddies got together and decided that if we
couldn’t find these we’d make them. We pooled our games and skills and are
having mats made for all our pins that we now own. Some 27 different titles
in all. We have a few titles already and they are…. well they are
gorgeous! We only made a limited number of each, enough for each guy who had
the game to get one and a few extras in case of spoilage. We also had
minimum numbers that we had to make so some of the games like Haunted House
still have many extras. On the otherhand TZ, which we almost all have is in
short supply already. Other guys outside our group saw these and were so
impressed they bought mats for games they didn’t have!!As a result we have
added two titles to the end of the run at their request. Games that none of
the original group even have!!

The setup costs for these mats is very expensive so I doubt we’ll reprint
any of these once the left overs are gone as we’ll already have our own
games done. So in short if you want one for your game I’d grab it now. If
you wish to buy say 5 and only three of them are ready you can buy the three
and I’ll set them aside, when the last two are ready just pay the difference
and I’ll ship the whole lot at once to save on shipping. You’d still get the
5 qty discount and you’ll never pay more than $12 to ship them all even if
you buy 20!! But I can’t be setting aside titles for guys unless they pay
for them as you know what will happen with all the cheap ass RPGers. We’d
just forget about it or waste all our limited pinball funds going to
Allentown or buying more games!! :-) Hmmm… not a bad idea. But if you want
a title snarf it while you can.

The website is konker.tripod.com

Thanks
Bob Smith

Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Question for commercial ops.

Here’s what I have done. I replaced the collectable Williams titles
with select Gottlieb system 3 titles. This is in laundrymats and low
profile locations. The customers there just want to play pinball and
eat up time. These are not pinball purists. SF2, Shaq, Waterworld,
911, Op Thunder, Wipe Out, & Vegas. These all make money in this type
of atmosphere.

Higher profile customers, (places with some atmosphere), get Williams
beaters. Getaway, Hurricane, WH20, Dr. Who, & similar. When I say
beaters I mean “not collector quality”.

The party rental folks can get TSPP, LOTR, T3, EATPM, Freddy, IJ,
CFTBL, & similar. These are premium rentals to specfic locations like
resorts and golf clubs. These games get photographed when placed, and
removed, for security reasons. These are also placed by a contract.

Would I place a TSPP in one of my laundramats? No way in hell. In
this part of the country within a week it would have “viva pancho
villa” etched into the cabinet and glass. This along with several
references to your mother. It’s sad but true.

I tried a Phantom of the Opera once at a pizza parlor in a less than
average location and within a week they had the mask etched off the
glass. The ownership could only say “I don no nuting”.
Games are normally location specific. You learn what to put where.

Mario
Pinthetic

From: Wolffy
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: WW HOME ROMS now available to everyone

I was the beta tester, and the release point. Go here for the good and bad:

http://www.gaspar.net/05120901.htm

-wolffy

From: “Beemus”
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Transporting a TZ?

If you do use cardboard beneath, keep in mind that the pin WILL slide
when you’re driving/stopping…take care to protect anything(pin
included) that you don’t want damaged or I’ve used bags of concrete to
keep it in one place.

Things I’ve seen, heard happen:
– Don’t forget your legs/bolts and backglass at the sellers…happens
all the time :).
– Don’t leave the key in the coin door, easy to break off if it hits
something.
– You MAY want to mark your legs(inside) and install them as they came
off…saves time re-leveling the machine…not critical but a tip.
– Use 2×4 or dowel to load/unload so as not to scratch up the
hatch/gate trim of your jeep…the cardboard may also do.

Most of all…TAKE YOUR TIME and ask for an assistant if needed. I
thought moving my TZ would be more of a hassle since it is a
widebody…was actually rather easy and was the first unload I did by
myself….ask for help, if available, for first time.

And for when you get it home…
For hard surfaces (concrete/tile but not your hardwoods): Home Depot or
similar will have them…not sure the exact name but i call them
3-wheeled moving skates. Triangular shape with recessed top that holds
pin feet/legs nicely. 3 roller wheels below. you can dance with your
pin with these if you’re into it. :)

For carpet/hardwoods:
magic slider or similar (home depot around here(seattle) has them and
they’re called Move Alls 8 for $10. Plastic disc with rubber/foam top
that pin legs to sink into. Slides on carpet like nothing else…I have
a deeper shag so I left these under my pins to protect the carpet as
well.

Lots of similar products out there but these are what I’ve used with
success.

Good luck and enjoy

From: “Greg Dunlap”
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Pinball Coffee Table

Hello all,

For Christmas I made my girlfriend a coffee table from a pinball
machine I got off ebay. Unlike many of these projects that have been
seen in the past, this one lights up! It was inspired by similar tables
they have at a bar here called Shorty’s which has about ten games in
the back. I made a project for it on instructables.com which is
probably pretty old hat for anyone here, but it has some cool pictures.

http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/E1997D9CD7601028931A001143E7E506/

Enjoy!

Greg Dunlap

Subject: Re: Pinball Coffee Table

Very nice project! I have built one too, but decided to use a wired
transformer instead. Not as clean as a self-contained battery, but I
think mine would use too much power.

I have added your project to my write-up, which is here:
http://www.edcheung.com/album/album05/pinball/furniture.htm
in case you are interested.

Edward Cheung